If you liked the feed, you're going to love this.
Here's the URL of the OPML for the Getting Started reviews.
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You can plug it in anywhere you would put the URL of an OPML file.
Noticed a layout problem on Mobile. Here's a screenshot from my Android phone when viewing the Pocalypse site.Haven't tested iOS yet.iOS looks good on my iPhone4: screenshot
I'm still #1 reviewer! :-)Had a though when reading Dave's worknote about the changes to the includeOutline macro:An optional parameter that would display the 'COLLAB' button in place. This way wherever I see the outline of reviewers, I can hit 'COLLAB' and add to my outline without going to the original 'Pocalypse' source page
I tried using the 'Archive subnode' feature here. It doesn't work on the web rendering side :(;)
LOVE the new feed for Pocalypse.Some nice recursion going on here :-)
Just shooting from the hipAbility to have a collab on each tab in a tabs based outline. Maybe I'm taking this too far, but I can see this type of interacive reviewership being a real asset to my Shownotes
The analogy between Instant Outlining and Pocalypse is obvious and welcomedMissing for me allready is some form of notification. This doesn't need to be anything more than a visual cue. When I hit a Pocalypse page I want to now who's outline has updated, so I don't have to expand each one to find out.Perhaps an asterix next to the name of an updated reviewers name;)
Archive (but not using the archive sub nodes function)
It Worked!Of course I didn't read the instructions before being properly caffinated. Once I did delete everything I had entered into the Pocalypse workspace and did a save I was able to enter my password and the COLLAB process worked as expected.I LOVE always being the top reviewer because of the name kids used to bully me about :-)Cool to see that nodes toggeled to comment mode aren't rendered.
Collaborative, but controlled. I like the idea.
I leave the timestamps off altogether. This is not a real-time medium, or a conversational medium. Don't care when you said it, but I do care what you said.Working on the includeOutline macro. Want to get the modal dialog with the outline in it really dialed in. Lots of other improvements. Release coming shortly.
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Ted, I don't think Feedhose is the answer
I think something like the Buddy Window from I/O, with top level heads for each story, and subs for each reviewer.
When you click the Collab button you get the current version of your reviews outline for that story in your Pocalypse Workspace.
No doubt there must be a command that allows you to synch up with what's on the server. And be warned when you're about to save over something that has changed.
I pointed to the OPML source for the reviews for the story using the namespace that was created for Scripting2, which does more or less the same thing.
Around and around we go.http://worknotes.scripting.com/april2012/4412ByDw/opmlOfReviewsTextWhere it stops?Nobody knows.;)
Laying the groundwork for OPML output
We're already generating OPML structs to pass to op.render.viewoutline, it's a simple matter to factor that into two bits, and then add on a bit of code to render the struct as OPML and write it to the S3 folder. Then you could include the OPML anywhere you like. I get that Ted has been poking at the app to try to find this. :-)Okay, here's the OPML version of the reviews of this post. If it worked you should see this text in the file. Heh. (It worked. I was expecting it to. Hahahah. Hehe.)
New RSS+ button, adds review to the feed.The feed is per-server. So a server defines a community, and to keep up to date on that community, subscribe to the feed.
BTW, to Adam, you're not going to be #1 for long. :-)Also, this is a really good spot for web sockets/ajax. I have a call into Chuck Shotton to give me a tutorial on what's possible here. ;)
The next thing to get working is the RSS feed for the site.
Have to get this hooked up in some meaningful way to River2.;)
It's pretty cool that the four of us have experience using the instant outliner
DJ your comment is exactly right. Every post has a self-determined list of participants. But it's only open to people with membership on the server. For writing. Whether or not it's open for reading is a pref. I'm just using the privacy flag that was implemented a few weeks ago. I could set the pref the other way and everyone would be able to read what we are writing.I have a feeling that this idea of a group of writers collaborating on a single web page is a structure that has "legs."
Mama mia atsa spicy a meataball!Ted, you can do everything here that you could do with an outline node, or a blogpost node. It's using op.render.viewoutline to render the outline. Any time a feature is added or a bug is fixed there, the feature will show up everywhere. You can also include macros here, but I'm not sure if that will stick. I may have to neuter them.
I am the author of this piece. Tried to keep it simple for the people who are currently using the World Outline software. If you have any problems with these instructions, let me know, and I can tune it up. Let's have fun!
Shouldn't the links in the RSS feed point into the pocalypse?Something like ?pocalypse=/path/into/review/outline would give a javascript something to latch onto and expand the correct note.
Confirmed: laptop mode worked. The window came up blank initially. I deleted the outline, closed the window and hit Collab button again. This time it pulled my existing content down.
4/5/12; 7:00:49 PM by LDOK, I'm here too now. Am interested to see what's happening with timestamps, given that I'm on British Summer Time and I'm assuming most others are on Eastern or CentralLet me make that clearer, when I look at the feed, the times are all standardised because I'm seeing the I think I'm getting this now. I've just started writing something in public that I want other people's help on. I've enabled comments, but if someone makes a comment early on and I change my text to reflect that, I don't want the comment sitting around at the top of the thread talking about something that isn't there anymore, or that is there, but reads differently now.That requires some agreement between author and collaborators but different things will work for different workgroups on different texts. For example I can see a case where reviewers' outlines become a sort of todo list for the author. As an author, I could go through everything at some point and choose which points to action, then let everyone know that I've done that and that they can remove/archive their current reviews and start a new review cycle.
Lloyd, I just hit Command-4 to insert the timestamp. Perhaps adding a timezone would be a good idea. My reviews hail from Dallas, TX.
Dave, I agree. After messing with feedhose, I finally got something kinda working, but it's not the right experience.
I apologize for polluting the reviews. I'm attempting to test feedhose hooked up to this feed.
Does the feed only update if I create a new top level node?
Does the rss feed get updated on demand when I upadate my review?Yes it does!
Dave, I like. The next question is still forming in my head. All I have so far is, "How do inclusions fit into this?";)
Hmm, this feels like a good candidate for feedhose.root.
Testing this
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